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firehawk618
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Way to resurrect a dead thread! lol good info on tires here though.
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onramp
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Jo's car had bad CV joints. I know what bad CV joints sound like. Same noise on a Corvette, Triumph, Porsche, some military vehicles. I knew that Jo's Mini had a bad CV joint. But nope - tires.
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KnottyMan
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Had GY F1's, Discount Tire comp'd a switch to GY GT's since the F1s were discontinued but it actually turned out to be wheel bearings (mostly front left) for me. No tranny issues. Nice and chunky engagement. Switched to RedLine MTL @ 60k
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Hapa Haole
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I had noisy tires, but I never thought it was the tranny... I thought it was the wheel bearings. It ended up being the tires like everyone suggested. We have such smart people here on the forum. |
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johnf36
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Someone else here had noise from the tires?
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If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.
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Hapa Haole
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A follow up almost 2 years after my original post...
My August 2006 MCS/R53 ended up having transmission failure at 49,870-ish miles in September of 2009. Thankfully the transmission was covered under warranty at the time. However, the warranty will expire this coming September. I hope the replacement lasts much longer than the original because $7,000+ seems like a rip off for a rebuilt/replacement tranny. |
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CORNERS
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Quick diagnostic check -- Change the wheels and tires, see if the noise is still there or not. Many of us in the club would be happy to help you do this and provide you with a set of wheels/tires to quickly try out.
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ktrjones12
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Hapa Haole
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Don't forget: If you're a PSMINI member, you get a 10% discount on parts and accessories at NW MINI, and there's also discounts at a few shops.
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thejones
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Thanks for the suggestions. Good point about the cost v. failure issue.
I have scheduled an appointment at NW Mini but that's 3 weeks out! Just going to get them to change the fluid. But it's a good idea to ask about a software upgrade. I recently changed the battery as the old original one finally gave out. I guess 6 years isn't too bad. In regards to working on the CVT, I have to yet to find anyone who will. They all say it's R&R only. That goes against my grain as a person who owns 2 aging Chevs and a '68 Galaxie but if a fluid change will keep the CVT functioning, that's fine with me. So any recommendations about a shop who exudes a level of confidence about performing the fluid change? Fat City sounded good, but not cheap. Cheers. |
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valvashon
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Just to be clear, I do not have the CVT in my car, but have been doing a lot of CVT research as my wife is looking around for a Silk Green 02/03 with a CVT. I can't point to any sources or links, but here is what I remember reading: 1) CVT's supposedly do not fail any more than any other transmission. More is heard about the failures as it turns into a 7,000 to 8,000 dollar repair. 2) Many CVT owners swear on changing their CVT fluid (a special fluid of some type) every 25,000 miles. I do not recall anybody who changed their fluid regularly that also had a failure that could be considered premature. 3) There are lots of high mileage CVT's out there. I think one of the White Roof Radio guys has almost 200k on his '02 with a CVT. 4) CVT's require a plenty of electricity to operate properly. I have heard of CVT's that supposedly failed, but were just the result of a weak battery. 5) MINI CVT's also can benefit from a software reset or upgrade. We found a Silk Green in Pennsylvania in April that had a price too good to be true; an inspection revealed a "bad" CVT. In late May this car shows up for sale in Cincinnati with 100 more miles on it! A call to the used car dealer revealed that it had been "reprogrammed" by the local BMW dealer. As far as we know, it was purchased by somebody and they are now happily motoring. I can't explain the grinding noise your wife heard. I would, however, get it to the dealer and have them do a fluid change (supposedly it is a lifetime fluid, but change it anyway) and a software reset. If NW MINI just wants to replace the CVT, keep looking for a shop that can work on it. Anybody know of another place that can work on a MINI CVT? Also, as you have an '03 it could be a battery issue. Having that load tested would be a good idea also. Val |
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chava007
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I actually do not know the original purchase date, I only know the manufacture date which is Oct 04. I did replaced the tires.. I put some Potenza tires on it and now the noise is gone... but on a talk with my mechanic he said he could still hear something wrong with the transmission... BTW a sample of transmission fluid came fine.
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Minihaha
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Sorry, I didn`t realize that your car is an 05. I believe that you are right about the 4 year limit. Was your car originally purchased Aug-Dec 05? You might have NW MINI look at it after checking to see if they would charge you, and then if it needs to be replaced whether it is still covered.
The axle was covered under warranty, so no charge. I still bet that the noise was caused by tires. Good luck. Milt |
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chava007
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But it is 50K or 4 Years right? I think I am out by years.. my car is an 05. How much was it to replace the axle?
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Minihaha
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I just had another thought. Some months ago my MINI made a clicking sound when I shifted, eminating from the rt front. After some false starts, PS MINI replaced the axle, and voila, the noise disappeared.
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Minihaha
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You say that your warranty is already up? Your parts warranty should cover your car thru 50,000 miles. The service warranty is 36,000. I totally agree w/Pat, replace your tires and enjoy. If there is a problem w/ your transmission, you have 20,000 miles to sort it out.
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thejones
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Yes, in the Seattle area. Speaking to a chap at Fat City, he seen some signs of CVT failure but at much higher mileage (90K and up). Given the amount of talk about this on other forums (fora?) my assumption was that the failure was not that uncommon.
I did not hear the grinding sound myself (wife's car - she was starting it) but she is familiar with the sounds it does make and has a pretty good idea of the sounds is *shouldn't* make. What irked me is the fact that one can only drive it until it fails. No way to "pop the top" and see if anything is amiss. At the very least I could replace the fluid (for about $350) as a preventative measure but other than that, seeing the EP code on the display was the only other indicator of possible trouble ahead... Edited by thejones - July/27/09 at 7:30am |
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Hapa Haole
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Hi "The Jones",
I haven't heard anything about the CVT going bad from any of our PS MINI members. I have an AT but it is not the CVT, so I don't have any feedback for you personally. Are you in the Puget Sound area?
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thejones
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G'day. Noticing the thread, I was hoping for more discussion about the actual CVT failures at 30K (although I'm glad the original poster resolved their issue affordably!).
I have as 03 MC with just over 33K on the clock. The wife put the car in gear last week and heard a grinding sound. She turned off the engine, fired it up again and the sound had disappeared but there was now an error code of "EP" after the next service indicator display cleared. The SES light remained on but cleared the following day. I do not have an OBD-II scan tool but will probably purchase one simply to pull data from the computer. Reading horror stories about the 02/03 CVT transmissions going out after only 30K. http://www.motoringfile.com/2003/09/10/TheCVTRevisited-AFullReview/#comment-63600 I can get the fluid changed but according to Fat City, they cannot do an internal inspection as the unit is sealed. So is my only option to drive the thing until it dies? Any thoughts on it being an electronic rather than mechanical issue? Thanks! |
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chava007
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Sorry, I truly dont mean to annoy anyone with my OCD, and I KNOW it gets annoying (Just ask my g/f and friends ) And yes... deep inside I beleive that Schrödinger will laugh at me when my tranny fails because I inspected it
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Rob N
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Yes, it's kind of a snick rather than a click. Has always been there. I believe it is from the linkage itself.
I don't recall every seeing much at all about tranny problems except for the first CVT's and most of that problem was with the main ECU programming rather than the transmission.
The tranny is a Getrag and I believe they have a very good rep. If you don't quit worrying about this, I'm afraid you will trigger some quantum physics thing that will cause it to fail just because you are worrying about it.
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Rob, Vickie and Alice
COOPR-S The question is, "When you turn on your car does it return the favor?" |
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chava007
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Hi Val,
Thanks for taking the time to check this and answer :-)
The click I hear does not come from inside the car on the gearbox, but from outside the car on the front.. does yours do that too?
Thanks!!
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valvashon
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I hear that click when I shift also.
Val |
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chava007
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Thanks! :-)
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Rob N
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All seems normal to me.
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Rob, Vickie and Alice
COOPR-S The question is, "When you turn on your car does it return the favor?" |
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chava007
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I took my car to a closed parking lot with lots of echo so I could hear the car better... Every time I shift I hear a very subtle "click".. it doesnt sound bad.. sounds like when you put the door on a lock.... Is that normal?
Another thing.. For example.. the Steering pump makes this buzzing noise that confuses ppl into thinking that there is a problem with it, but that is just the way it sounds... is there any other sound like that, that the mini does? Thanks! Sal. |
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chava007
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Wow $75 I think is the cheapest oil change I've seen in the area :-D I like my current shop.. but to give me a diagnosis for a transmission just based on sounds.. I dont think they checked the oil.... is just a letdown for me... I will give them a try.
Thanks!!!
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valvashon
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I had a great experience with Fat City when I needed my first oil change and couldn't get the drain plug loosened myself (I actually broke a socket and kind of f-upped my back). They got me in the next day (!) and did an inspection and changed the oil all for about $75! I'll definitely be going back next time there is something that needs doing that I can't do myself. Bruce |
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chava007
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Hi, I got FatCity recommended to take my Mini for a checkup.. is it a good place?
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Sal.
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chava007
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You do make a lot of sense... although my warranty is all ready up, that's why I worry so much .. but yes.... If I start with tests and such I will never enjoy this car again... not with my high levels of OCD (locked.. unlocked... locked..) I also talked to an uncle that knows a bit about mechanics and he was also surprised they did not inspect the oil, he explained to me that there exit cap is magnetic so it traps some of the possible debris and whatever is not magnetically attracted to it gets inspected under some magnification. I also told him that after a tire rotation the noise was 100% gone and that I have no problem shifting... and he said the same thing.. if it works it works.. enjoy it .. Sooo... thanks A LOT for the words of wisdom.. I hope I get over my OCD and start enjoying my mini again (and I really enjoy it )... If anybody else has comments/suggestions/experiences/support group ... please share. THanks!! |
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