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SMOG
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Corners would have taken good care of them :-)
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racingbmwm3
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Too bad they don't offer these for your year: http://www.ohlinsusa.com/automotive-suspension-products/2/Mini+Cooper I'd go for the KW or H&R from what's available to you. I'd like to say the Bilstein, but I've never heard any positive reviews for their coilover packages, only their struts.
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SMOG
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I think I am going to go with Bilsteins and Swift Spec-R springs. The only question in my mind is which Bilsteins, the B6 or the B8?
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Rob N
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Frankly, I find all of this shocking.
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Rob, Vickie and Alice
COOPR-S The question is, "When you turn on your car does it return the favor?" |
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CINIMIN
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I think it is just an opportunity for SMOG to strut his stuff!
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Jack -
<font color=RED>CINIMIN [/COLOR] 2006 CR/W MCS - 6spd - LSD -15% Pulley - Dinan CAI ASA JH6's Koni FSD's 22mm Bar Have you hugged a curve today? |
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onramp
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Ba-da... boom!
You guys just can't help yourselves... All is good. |
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SMOG
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Ha! I guess that's what happens when "Shocking" things happen to those who "Strut their stuff"
When suspension fails there is always a big let down of some sort, financially or in reality when it hits the pavement. I now apparently have had both happen! I just need to get a solid recommendation which Bilstein to put on, B6 or B8. The B8 is recommended for lowering springs and the Swift Spec-R's do lower the car about an inch or a bit more. The B6's are for the longer stroke of OEM springs BUT might work with the Swift's. Some sites list these shocks/struts by HD or Sport and sometimes that seems to be interchangeable without reference to "B6" or "B8" and that adds to the confusion. Is the IRP, that bobbyd referred to, site and business in general knowledgeable? Whats a guy to do??!!!?? The smoother the ride the better. Edited by SMOG - March/03/14 at 1:27pm |
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SMOG
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UPDATE to the saga.
Ordered the B8's and had some good advice from the guys at IRP in Renton(thank you BobbyD) in regards to the selection. By the time all the parts show up I suspect my shoulder will be in good enough shape to attack the MINI again. SMOG-2 has turned out to be quite the sparring partner! |
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racingbmwm3
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I'm assuming IRP told you about the ride quality difference in using either the HD or Sport in combination with lowering springs. I had the HD (B6) on my E30, then I lowered it later and it rode rough. A friend of mine lowered his and used the Sport (B8) and it rode like a stock suspension, firm and comfortable.
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SMOG
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IRP said that the valving on the B6 & the B8 were identical. The difference was one is designed for shorter stroke springs, and that is the B8.
I told them i wanted smooth! Edited by SMOG - March/06/14 at 6:41am |
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SMOG
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I just got back from a 5 or 6,000 mile drive on the Bilstien B8's with Swift Spec-R springs. All I can say is AMAZING! Tight suspension but not hard hitting enough to leave nuts, bolts and screws on the floor of the MINI after all those miles on some pretty bad roads. My co-pilot mentioned that she could not have gone that far in her Honda Accord without zero back pain. Neither of us had back issues after the adventure. With Posted Speed Limits as high as 80mph you can imagine how fast I was going and doing it on Dunlop SP Wintersport M3's, 215x45x17's. GREAT TIRE!!!!!
We started out in the snow on Mt. Hood and ended up in the snow in Idaho and never a slip or bobble, even when there were many hydroplaning into the center divider in West Virginia. Love those tires :-) and the shocks. Edited by SMOG - December/19/14 at 6:49am |
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onramp
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You're back! How was the trip?
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SuperCoop
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Is that on a 1st gen? Looking at Billy's site, I see B4 and B6 for the 1st gen. If I recall, I have the B8s on my Benz and they're the yellow HD shocks.
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Jason - '05 PS/B Cooper S, most packages, 17%, Brisk silver plugs, IE fixed camber plates & Craven STD's, Powerflex trans/dogbone mount poly inserts, 20mm Whiteline rear sway bar, SprintBooster.
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SMOG
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Back, thankfully! Looooong trip but the MINI did very well and
averaged 31+mpg. The stupid drivers are abundant, the drivers that do
NOT want to be passed by a MINI are to numerous to count and the truck
drivers that want to keep a rolling road block to stop all progress for
all traffic. Saw only 2 MINI's going the same direction we were going
and a couple dozen going the opposite direction. Hi note was one of the
Reverends doing the funeral service for my uncle had a red MINI "S" and loves it. The only MINI in town as far as I could see. She too loves her MINI.
2nd Gen w/sport suspension front sway bar, 22mm rear sway bar is what I drive. |
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Ryder_C
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I was looking into some shocks for my first performance upgrade on my car and I came across the
Bilstein PSS9 Coil Over System. Does anyone know anything about these shocks and if they are really worth the money? |
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SMOG
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As was explained to me by the Bilstien Distributor, the B8's are for lowering springs, the B6's are for regular length springs, both being HD ride shocks. The B4's are for a softer ride and regular OEM springs. |
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Ryder_C
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I drive an 05 mini I found a few websites that carry the pss9s for my car but 2000 for the shocks and I can't find any reviews on them so I was hoping someone from this site could bring some insight to the matter.
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SMOG
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2nd Gen, 2011 that HAD "Sport Suspension" and I added a 22mm rear sway bar set on soft. Just about as stiff, maybe a little less, than the OEM Sport Suspension and far less jarring with 1 or 2 people in the car. The OEM Sport rear sway bar measures 19mm. Corners pretty darn flat! Sorry I missed answering that question earlier. |
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RickB
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I'm planning to get FSDs and new 215/45-17s next Spring; any suggestions, either for different struts or a good, inexpensive performance tire?
I've had Yokohama Paradas since '05, but that tire has been discontinued; is there a specific tire that replaced it? Something similar that doesn't cost $200 a pop? I bought the Paradas because I thought they had the best overall performance in a Road & Track magazine test of $100 performance tires, but ten years later, I suppose the $200 tire is the new $100 tire?
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ipeverywhere
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This is a very old thread. Maybe start a new tire thread?
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SMOG
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I see 2 topics in that last question by RickB; struts/shocks and tires.
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CINIMIN
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+1 on the FSDs - much improved ride and handling. Get a good alignment after. Consider a rear sway bar and you will be set for some fun in the twisties. Tires are probably the worst place to try to save a few bucks. Get the best tires you can possibly afford. Shop sizes carefully - same tire can vary in price considerably in different sizes. My $.02 wprth.
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Jack -
<font color=RED>CINIMIN [/COLOR] 2006 CR/W MCS - 6spd - LSD -15% Pulley - Dinan CAI ASA JH6's Koni FSD's 22mm Bar Have you hugged a curve today? |
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SuperCoop
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I must be the only person who's not thrilled with the FSD's. Improved over stock? Yes, though I found them pretty bouncy with the stock S springs.
Considering Kurt's old HR setup, I was REALLY impressed the first time I rode in his car.
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Jason - '05 PS/B Cooper S, most packages, 17%, Brisk silver plugs, IE fixed camber plates & Craven STD's, Powerflex trans/dogbone mount poly inserts, 20mm Whiteline rear sway bar, SprintBooster.
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CORNERS
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The FSD are a 'comfortable' upgrade from stock but probably not for the performance-minded.
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SMOG
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The setup I settled with really makes the little car handle very well. It drops it an inch, after a year of settling, rides firm but not jarring which is an upgrade to the "Sport Suspension" option that was on my 2011 MCS.
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RickB
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90% of my miles are in a straight line, so while I do like the sporty side, my butt would prefer to have a more comfortable ride all the time!
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'02 Cooper S, Alta pulley, Alta CAI, M7 brace, Madness brace, One-ball, D1 Spec Throttle Controller, ExtremeContact DW, Koni FSD, Boot Box, Glove Box Organizer . . .
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SMOG
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You prefer straights to corners? The FSD's ride great.
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Rob N
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I am quite satisfied with my FSD's. Really improve the general ride.
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Rob, Vickie and Alice
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Rob N
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While you are down there, you should consider an upgrade to Poly control arm bushings. If they haven't ben replaced already, they are probably trash.
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Rob, Vickie and Alice
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SMOG
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Rob, how many miles would you expect a set of OEM bushings to last?
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