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Wildfamily
PSMINI Expert Advisor PSMINI Member Joined: March/11/06 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4559 |
Posted: May/26/08 at 11:37pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Oh..and you can call me Bill "Gates"...seeing that I missed more gates than anyone in the morning session.
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garumph
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Posted: May/26/08 at 11:48pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
oops, I will have to change that. Why is every group different?
Edit: Ok, I fixed it. Edited by garumph - May/26/08 at 11:53pm |
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Gordon
Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black |
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Wildfamily
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Posted: May/26/08 at 11:54pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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motoring
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Posted: May/27/08 at 12:14am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Plugging in our actual pax value of .815 (TO gets 1.000) I end up
paxing 4th overall (39.797) and Kristi paxed 7th
(40.567) Gordon's actual index time
is 45.272
I'm not sure of Dean and Martin, I will assume a Street Mod index
(because of the pulley...) Martin 46.756, Dean 48.898
the only events that the top pax listing really works is SCCA, because that is only club that exclusively uses SCCA classing, and there are no indexes for the non-scca classes. Notice that the pax times are the same as the top times for all the drivers that don't have a class listed as x** (XSTX or XSS for the top two drivers) Edited by motoring - May/27/08 at 2:00am |
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Keith
02 IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top - GONE 07 MY/B MCS with some sort of stripes or something |
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motoring
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Posted: May/27/08 at 12:16am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Did it rain much in the afternoon? It was sprinkling a little when we left.
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Keith
02 IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top - GONE 07 MY/B MCS with some sort of stripes or something |
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Wildfamily
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Posted: May/27/08 at 12:18am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Afternoon was dry and warmer...great weather finally.
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motoring
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the clubs all have different history, and arrived at their classing structure differently. WWSCC is actually older than SCCA. BSCC has always been a club that allowed drivers to fairly freely modify their cars, notice that none of the BSCC classes are called "Stock" (although stock doesn't mean "as delivered from the dealer" in any of the clubs) |
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Keith
02 IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top - GONE 07 MY/B MCS with some sort of stripes or something |
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Wildfamily
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Posted: May/27/08 at 12:24am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nice job representing the MINI nation Keith and Kristi. You both looked great out there. I'd love to ride along with one of you some time. This was only my 3rd event, so I have much to learn from an experienced pilot like yourselves!
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motoring
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Posted: May/27/08 at 12:37am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yes, practice practice practice... I have been doing this for almost 10 years. (finding that hard to believe)
I do give ride-alongs, and ride with folks as much as possible. But my first responsibility is to my wife... I also don't drive the MINI at every event, and the Miata doesn't have a passenger seat. |
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Keith
02 IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top - GONE 07 MY/B MCS with some sort of stripes or something |
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garumph
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I understand, It was more of a rhetorical question. It is just frustrating coming into this sport. There are no descriptions on the sign in page so you have to be on your toes to make sure you are in the right class. With SS meaning two completely different things, I know I am going to show up for the wrong class one of these days. |
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Gordon
Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black |
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motoring
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Posted: May/27/08 at 1:56am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dang I messed up... I used the 2007 indexes not the 2008.
I ended up 4th and Kristi 7th. I have edited my original post
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Keith
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Wildfamily
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Posted: May/27/08 at 2:31am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Keith,
Where do you get the index from. I see that you use a different index for Gordon (stock)..is that because his car is a different build year? Dean and I have mods so understand that as well, but where can we find the index values? Still learning here so bare with me.
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motoring
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the list of indexes are here
there is a little history there, each class has an index my car is G Stock (GS), Gordon's is H Stock (HS). Yours is something higher. I guessed Street Mod (SM) Classing gets odd, the rules sometimes do not take into account simple mods, and bump you to a much higher class. If you had a JCW (including the JCW pulley) you could run STX or DSP. But since you have an aftermarket pulley, you are in SM or higher. |
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Keith
02 IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top - GONE 07 MY/B MCS with some sort of stripes or something |
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garumph
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Posted: May/27/08 at 3:25am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm in the slow class.
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Gordon
Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black |
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Wildfamily
PSMINI Expert Advisor PSMINI Member Joined: March/11/06 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4559 |
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Well, that gives me a little idea of how much more I need to push it to keep up with you on an indexed basis Gordon. I guess I need to beat you by 4-5 seconds unadjusted next time. The gauntlet has been thrown! (all in good fun of course). It's fun!
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motoring
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Posted: May/27/08 at 5:35am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
since you are not playing for real, I would look more directly at the
DSP index in doing comparisons. that is assuming you car makes
similar power to a JCW or GP in stock form
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Keith
02 IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top - GONE 07 MY/B MCS with some sort of stripes or something |
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garumph
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Posted: May/27/08 at 5:51am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I got to get me some stickier rubber for next weekend. Martin's coil overs have really put him on rails.
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Gordon
Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black |
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motoring
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Posted: May/27/08 at 5:54am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
What is your budget? street tires or race tires?
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Keith
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garumph
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I want something street legal, I don't want to have to be swapping wheels all the time. I have my all seasons on 15" rims that I can swap out for daily driving, but I don't want to have to do it every time I get to the track. I would like to keep it around $100 a tire.
I have x-lite rims (16"x6.5) Edited by garumph - May/27/08 at 6:02am |
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Gordon
Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black |
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motoring
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two choices for ultra high performance tires in your budget.
Falken RT-615 in a 215/45/16 $92 www.vulcantire.com Dunlop Direzza Z1 StarSpec 205/50/16 $107 www.tirerack.com both are great, but I would give the advantage to the dunlops get them mounted and balanced at www.tightntidyracing.com Edited by motoring - May/27/08 at 6:19am |
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Keith
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garumph
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I was looking at the Falken's. I will also have to check out the Dunlops. I was planning to head down to Discount Tire to see what they can do for me on one of those.
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Gordon
Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black |
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garumph
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OK, I went with the Falkens. With the little testing I did today, I am excited for tomorrow! Wow these are sticky tires.
Who else is in for tomorrow? Keith, I am hoping for a critical ride from you. It is coming together, but I need some pointers. |
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Gordon
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Wildfamily
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I'd be there but have an appt down south that I don't think will be done in time to make it to the raceway. Let us know how the new shoes work out Gordon.
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garumph
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Wow! huge difference. Much stickier. Now if the driver would just smooth out the line, I might get my times down lower.
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Gordon
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motoring
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Sorry I didn't get to ride with you Gordon, hopefully next time.
Good job on second place. |
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Keith
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garumph
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Thanks. It was fun with the new tires.
Here is the YouTube video of all 6 runs. There is a little NSFW language on the 4th run. Edited by garumph - June/03/08 at 11:05am |
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Gordon
Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black |
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Boomer
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Gordon, nice job. Like the videos!
Cheers!
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07 MCS, JIC Cross C/O, JCW BBK, Milltek exhaust, RR DP, Helix I/C, RMW tune (208.5 WHP & 238.3 WTQ)Ray's (17 lbs) and Nitto NT01 for track duty
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Wildfamily
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nice runs Gordon. Looks like fun!
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garumph
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From looking at the video and thinking back. 3 things:
1. Get moving off the line. I putzed around for too long after the start b. slow down on the turn around. I'm not trying to go fast, I am trying to go the other direction. III. the left hander after the cross over, why was I aiming for the turn cone? I should be rounding the corner more to set myself up for the next turn. |
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Gordon
Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black |
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