Well crap

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Not a great start to the year. The first event was today. 

I think if I would have braked a little harder, then backed up, I wouldn't have been DQ'd. I pulled through to get back on the track.

Other than that, at least it was cold!

Edited by garumph - February/08/09 at 11:04am

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garumph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List PSMINI Expert Advisor PSMINI Member Joined: October/15/06 Location: Federal Way Status: Offline Points: 1083	Post Options Post Reply Quote garumph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Well crap Posted: February/08/09 at 11:03am
	Not a great start to the year. The first event was today. I think if I would have braked a little harder, then backed up, I wouldn't have been DQ'd. I pulled through to get back on the track. Other than that, at least it was cold! Edited by garumph - February/08/09 at 11:04am
	Gordon Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black

phydeaux Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MINI Motorer Joined: July/20/05 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3098	Post Options Post Reply Quote phydeaux Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February/08/09 at 12:35pm
	Bummer, Gordon. That sucks. Least you know that there is lots of room for improvement. ;)
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Wildfamily Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List PSMINI Expert Advisor PSMINI Member Joined: March/11/06 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4559	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wildfamily Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February/08/09 at 12:54pm
	No sweat Gordon. Chalk it up as learning experience and you'll figure it out next time. Sounds like you had a good time anyway!
	'15 F55 Cooper Volcanic Orange '80 Mini English White

motoring Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MINI Motorer Joined: August/13/04 Status: Offline Points: 226	Post Options Post Reply Quote motoring Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February/08/09 at 1:20pm
	You missed a gate before the hard left turn... If you made the gate, you would not have has as much speed going across the cross over, and probably not spun.
	Keith 02 IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top - GONE 07 MY/B MCS with some sort of stripes or something

garumph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List PSMINI Expert Advisor PSMINI Member Joined: October/15/06 Location: Federal Way Status: Offline Points: 1083	Post Options Post Reply Quote garumph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February/08/09 at 1:37pm
	yea, I saw that. I thought I had a great line on the gate, then I saw the video. Doh! I also need to tweek my air pressure, I got rid of my understeer, now I need to dial back the oversteer a little.
	Gordon Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black

motoring Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MINI Motorer Joined: August/13/04 Status: Offline Points: 226	Post Options Post Reply Quote motoring Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February/08/09 at 1:50pm
	The run looked very "in control" for the majority of the run. that corner is always a little hairy, I'm always ready for the back end to step out and prepared to catch it with a quick countersteer. Most of my runs were an exercise in keeping the back end behind me.
	Keith 02 IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top - GONE 07 MY/B MCS with some sort of stripes or something

garumph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List PSMINI Expert Advisor PSMINI Member Joined: October/15/06 Location: Federal Way Status: Offline Points: 1083	Post Options Post Reply Quote garumph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February/08/09 at 2:20pm
	Yes, a little less speed would have done it. The cold tires didn't help. I should have been more careful, I was skittering around the first part of the course. Plus I drove myself into the DQ. I'm sure the back end was still on the pavement when I let off the brake. If I would have stopped and not tried to get going again so quickly I would have red flagged the course and still have been alive to drive the rest of the day.
	Gordon Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black

johnf36 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List PSMINI Expert Advisor PSMINI Member Joined: August/30/07 Location: Ephrata, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 8612	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnf36 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February/08/09 at 6:54pm
	That sucks Gordon, that is 2 times now just bad luck or do we need to look at the whole picture on set up? John
	If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.

garumph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List PSMINI Expert Advisor PSMINI Member Joined: October/15/06 Location: Federal Way Status: Offline Points: 1083	Post Options Post Reply Quote garumph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February/09/09 at 12:29am
	I need to look at the setup. I have the back end a little too lively for my skill level. I need to tighten it up and get back to more understeer instead of the oversteer. I don't want to do anything too radical because I am mostly happy with the setup. Mostly I just need to get off a bit and drive more in control, instead of pushing it right to the edge every time.
	Gordon Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black

motoring Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MINI Motorer Joined: August/13/04 Status: Offline Points: 226	Post Options Post Reply Quote motoring Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February/09/09 at 12:43am
	It may be as simple as pulling your brake points back just a bit, doing more of your braking in a straight line.
	Keith 02 IB/W MC with the really big checkered flag on top - GONE 07 MY/B MCS with some sort of stripes or something

garumph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List PSMINI Expert Advisor PSMINI Member Joined: October/15/06 Location: Federal Way Status: Offline Points: 1083	Post Options Post Reply Quote garumph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February/09/09 at 1:11am
	more braking period. Both of the last spins were on long turns where by the time I realized I was too hot, it was way too late. I should have tried diving through both. I'm not a good enough driver yet to catch it before it gets really out of control.
	Gordon Clifford, '14 Countryman All4 S Hunka Burning Love, '12 Coupe S, Burnt Orange Flames, '05 MC Black